Pesky L30 Trophies and You! Shield Generator Makes Me Happy

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Pesky L30 Trophies and You! Shield Generator Makes Me Happy

Post by lotsofphil » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:30 pm

I own two L30 trophies: seal clubber and pastamancer (from this past crimbo).

Soon I will have (at least) AT and DB as well.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... soXk#gid=0

The shield generator caps at 5k moxie, so just buff moxie to the gills and adv there. It costs 1.4m at current prices but can likely be done in 3 or 4 days. And you'll end up with a ton of lunar isotopes.

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Re: Pesky L30 Trophies and You! Shield Generator Makes Me Ha

Post by infern0 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:19 pm

I like this post.

For some reason my only remaining Lvl30 trophy is SR, which makes no sense when you consider that I did half my basement runs as a SR.

This means I can get to 30 as a SR quickly and (relatively) cheaply, without taking a long time.

Thanks for the writeup and maths, phil

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Re: Pesky L30 Trophies and You! Shield Generator Makes Me Ha

Post by transplanted_entwife » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:38 pm

Thank you, Phil... AT and TT are the only Level 30 trophies left for me. It'll be nice to scratch one of those off the list. =)
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Post by lotsofphil » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:07 am

Sauce should be good since you get extra turns of buffs and can use nemesis potions. TT will be pricier since you'll (I think) want to equalize.

Transponders will only come down in price though.

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Post by lotsofphil » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:01 pm

3 baios, crown of thrones with lime/hodg hat, BRC, sticker crossbow, brim boxers, astral shirt, sandworm
prism break to 280 moxie (L17) in 175 turns.
farmed 333 isotopes, which will (ignoring opportunity cost) make it a profitable day.

not sure about sandworm or disembodied hand with something in it (BRC, whackin stick, etc)

edit:
always 40lb sombrero
sombrero stats ~= sqrt(40*ML/100) = .63 * sqrt(ML)

hand stats = .2*base moxie/4 (high end)

ML ~= 8*base moxie (low end)

Sombrero > hand means...
.63 * sqrt(8 * base moxie) > .05 * base moxie
means...
1269 > base moxie

Since we are stopping at L30 (845 base) and they cap at 5k, sombrero is always better.
So, sombrero is better

double edit: but I have 3 grimacite gats and they're +50% today. Then the switch-over is 508, but you'll likely hit the ML cap at that level.

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Post by Antipasta » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:47 pm

The sombrero is the right answer to the question "how do I maximize my stats per adventure", but that's not the familiar I use for powerlevelling, because that's not the question I ask. My question is more like: "three days from now, I want to be as high level as possible, while spending as little as possible."

A level 5000 monster gives you 625 mainstat per fight; a 40 lb sombrero only adds 22-23, for a weak 3.6% boost. If you are spending 300 turns per day levelling, an extra 11 turns with a random familiar would put you at the same stat gain.

300 turns is plenty of time to rotate all your spleen and other item dropping familiars in, to get yourself 5x gongs, aguas, grid tokens, transponders, etc. Sell a few of them, spend the loot on 11+ adventures worth of better food or drink, and you will end up with the same stat gain, with a bunch of extra goodies in inventory.

Or use a familiar like the gibberer; in 300 adventures you'll get 20 bonus adventures, and come out ahead. Wild hare, even better!

When I run the slime tube for levelling, my script rotates through the item dropping familiars; then I switch to stasis type combat with my stocking mimic. It steals of ton of meat, the candy drops are valuable, and I spend the mp regen on summons, and on candyblasting my opponents for more candy to sell/feed the mimic.

[edit] and depending on isotope prices, +item fams and equipment might be better still!

tl;dr: even though the sombrero is "optimal", lots of familiars are better choices

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Post by lotsofphil » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:32 pm

Good points, AP.

I'd go with a gibberer if I had one.

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Post by lotsofphil » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:28 am

I bought a gibberer :) +24 adv from roll today, I guess. It's name is Cthacon.

360 adv from 280 moxie to 534 (L24). So two days from prism break to L24. Leveling should plateau now as I am at 5000 buffed moxie. Spreadsheet says 690 more turns. So if I can play Sat/Sun, it will be 4 days in aftercore for the trophy :)

edit: 375 more to 744
and 223 more to L30

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Post by transplanted_entwife » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:56 pm

I am level 26, three days post-prism, and approve this message. You rock, Phil. =)

EDIT: Trophy acquired and back into a run in the last class I need the level 30 trophy from. Huzzah! =D
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Re: Pesky L30 Trophies and You! Shield Generator Makes Me Ha

Post by unwieldy locutions » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:45 pm

Phil, this is awesome. It is cutting my aftercore time like crazy.
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Post by lotsofphil » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:37 pm

Yay, very happy to hear.

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Re: Pesky L30 Trophies and You! Shield Generator Makes Me Ha

Post by riktan » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:27 pm

I'd like to toss in a big thank-you as well,

I'd been resigning myself to doing scope runs SC and giving up on the level 30 trophies. With this nifty little trick I should be able to finish up my last 3 in a month, trophies to boot.

Grats!

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