UNparaLLeLogram: hey Jick, while you're here, how badly is pasta getting nerfed? and by extension, how badly is hardcore standard getting nerfed as a result?
Jick: You just won't be able to make hi meins in run anymore.
Cheesecookie: We are all getting gluten intolerance passives, HC permed for free!
Jick: The new pasta dishes are on the new curve.
industrialpunk: gluten free challenge path
Heeheehee: Hm. Easiest way to accomplish that would just be bump hi meins to level 15.
Jick: The biggest nerf was probably the Saucemaven one.
Jick: So it's already done.
UNparaLLeLogram: well, the saucemaven nerf already made me cry
Loathmast: Jick, are you gonna make hi meins crafyable using Dread clusters?
Heeheehee: oh god that sounds gross.
yojimboS_LAW: oh. so nothing else is changing with pasta except the hi mein bit?
Zen00: Sounds terrible.
Heeheehee: You should make clusters malusable into ingots, and use those for hi meins
industrialpunk: OOOH. extras SPOOKY hi mein.
Manendra: so back to the old reagent pasta plan?
Loxodonta: I don't think I realized what saucemaven did before it was nerfed. I'm still behind the times
Eroquin: Hell ramen has missed you, Manendra.
Manendra: I haven't really missed it, tbh
Heeheehee: Also Tao and DR should probably get a slight reworking. IMO the easiest way to handle that would just be to move DR to apply after DA.
yojimboS_LAW: reagent pasta is better for low turncount runs, anyway.
UNparaLLeLogram: wait, will hi mein not be *craftable* in run, or not *usable* in run?
UNparaLLeLogram: (in the case of softcore standard pulling it)
industrialpunk: As a seal clubber I won't feel bad anymore missing out on that tasty msg
Zen00: So will Mysticality classes get a new guild mechanic then to replace the wok? -hic-
Cheesecookie: Now I want some real ramen.
Jick: Probably not.
Heeheehee: Yes, they'll get Mozzarella, who mans the pizza oven.
Loxodonta prefers tacos to noodle dishes.
Cheesecookie: Yay! Pizza oven!
Zen00: I was hoping noodle-crafting, craft gear out of noodles or something. -hic-
yojimboS_LAW: asymmetry is great.
Heeheehee: Womans the pizza oven?
pwnacus maximus: is the malus going away as well?
Heeheehee: Saucerors should be better at making pizza.
Zen00: Turtle Tamers should be best at pizza making.
Zen00: Though it would be nice to see more high level pizzas.
Heeheehee: Revamp Way of Sauce to become Way of Pizza, allows you to make pizza in the oven
Lxndr: nay, they are best at pizza ordering and eating
Zen00: Sounds right.
yojimboS_LAW: how can the horadric pizza oven be in the myst guild when it's the VIP iotm in 10 days?
Heeheehee: Make pizzas saucy foods, so saucemaven and pizza lover can both apply.
Heeheehee: And in the hot charter? Beats me.
Cheesecookie: This is going to be an interesting IoTM.
UNparaLLeLogram: are there new pasta dishes coming out?
Heeheehee: They already did!
UNparaLLeLogram: beyond the ones we've already received
Zen00: They've all been so far this year
Jick: Yeah, there will be a bunch more new ones.
industrialpunk: Yep, a good year for ITOMs
Heeheehee: Also you should only be able to make pizzas on Fridays
Zen00: Great, I love lots of eating options
UNparaLLeLogram: will they be at the top of the curve?
industrialpunk: Could have class pizza skills that all are needed to make pizza
Zen00: It would be nice if there was some new low level pasta you could make with rat/bat/etc items
Heeheehee: Probably; we've got old chow meins at bottom of curve, newish things at middle of curve (Peak, A-boo, Cyrpt stuff)
industrialpunk: S: sauce, PM: dough, DB: garnish, etc?
Heeheehee: DB summons the little plastic thingy to stop the cardboard from touching your cheese
Zen00: It would be cool if you could make epic level food items, but it requires a skill from every class to make.
Cheesecookie: All the classes come together for ultimate pizza?
Heeheehee: AT just plays some music while everyone else works
Cheesecookie: That sounds like the start of world peace.
Manendra: Ode to Pizza
Zen00: That would be interesting too, a Tent like mechanic for food making in the guild
Heeheehee writes bots for clanpizza1-6
yojimboS_LAW: what. Sigh.
Heeheehee: Hobo tent
Loxodonta: don't turtle tamers already have a pizza bonus skill?
Eroquin: I think he means like the Ho...yeah, that.
Cheesecookie: Pizzapolis, he meant.
Zen00: Yeah they do Lox, but there's no high level pizzas to use it effectively on.
UNparaLLeLogram: Jick, are you going to nerf lasagnas?
WhiteWizard42: wait half an hour and you can find out exactly what he wants to nerf next.
IstariAsuka: What, so you get one of each class into a NC together to craft the ultimate pizza?
Jick: Today's update is just some UI stuff.
Heeheehee: He wants to nerf some herders.
Jick: No pasta changes for another week or two.
Solve_Omnis: lke what?
Heeheehee: yes, Darth
Jick: Lasagnas miiiiiight get slightly worse?
Zen00: Yeah Istari, like that.
Heeheehee: You need to add a few crazy bastard swords
Jick: I forget where they are now compared to my target.
Solve_Omnis: really crazily high
Jick: But if I make them worse I will also make them easier to cook. Fewer steps.
yojimboS_LAW: they're currently better than hi mein, iirc?
Jick: Are they?
Jick: I thought they weren't, quite.
Zen00: But only on a non-monday, with potion of the field gar
Solve_Omnis: i think so, for non-myst. (that's with field gar) -hic-
UNparaLLeLogram: only in unrestricted for non mys
Eroquin: Are they better without field gar though?
yojimboS_LAW: with field gar, I mean.
Jick: If tha'ts true then yeah, they'll get slightly worse.
IstariAsuka: My favorite lasagna was always the one where if you spent a turn to improve it, it didn't improve it at all, merely changed the variance.
Jick: Oh, gotcha.
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