Mutant raffle familiars

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Mutant raffle familiars

Post by Eleron » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:48 am

The mutant raffle familiars are all darkness-sensitive versions of the base familiars, with added attack and poison. All these familiars are strongly affected by the moons, with an effectiveness ranging from 55% to 130% of the base value.

These are modifiers of the final resulting strength instead of the weight, and thus cause great moon-related variance that is not affected by diminishing returns. On the best days (typically muscle stat days) they act as about ~1.4x weight familiars, which is quite good. 44% of the time they're actually worse than the base familiars though, so paying attention to the moon phase is pretty important =)

Mutant raffle familiar = (130% - 15% * grimacitedarkness) * basefamiliar + attack w/poison

Fire ant = moonmod(day) * [fairy(lb) items + lime(lb) attack w/poison], attacks 20% of the time
Mutant cactus bud = moonmod(day) * [leprechaun(lb) meat + lime(lb) attack w/poison], attacks 20% of the time
Baby mutant rattlesnake = moonmod(day) * [volleyball(lb) stats + lime(lb) attack w/poison], attacks 20% of the time
Mutant gila monster = moonmod(day) * [whelp(lb) restore + lime(2 * lb) attack w/poison], attacks 50% of the time

The moonmod modifiers is 130% - 15% * "grimacite darkness level". It can be easily found from NO's calendar as 130% - 3 * depleted grimacite%. Thanks to all who helped out =)
Last edited by Eleron on Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:07 am, edited 7 times in total.

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Post by rottingflesh » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:50 am

Mutant Cactus Bud vs Brigands

+385% meat drops from other sources

21 lb - 5318
22 lb - 5960
23 lb - 5374

At this point I remembered to summon love songs and got 4 songs of sugary cuteness before they got too expensive for me to summon.

+425%, 23 lb - 6743
+423%, 23 lb - 6081
+421%, 24 lb - 6814
+419%, 24 lb - 6197
+417%, 24 lb - 5818
+415%, 25 lb - 6768
+413%, 25 lb - 6219

Then my pink heart and inhaler ran out...

+191%, 25 lb - 4427
+189%, 26 lb - 4389
+187%, 26 lb - 4037
+185%, 26 lb - 4264
+183%, 26 lb - 4452
+181%, 26 lb - 4021
+179%, 27 lb - 3977
+177%, 27 lb - 3880
+175%, 27 lb - 4740
+173%, 27 lb - 3706

EDIT: Eleron wants me to add that it's Bor 3.
EDIT AGAIN!: Apparently Wallaby sign screws everything up!

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Post by Fred Nefler » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:23 pm

rottingflesh wrote:EDIT AGAIN!: Apparently Wallaby sign screws everything up!
Well, not quite everything, but it does make it a fair bit more annoying. It's actually a lot easier to deal with Wallaby for item drops than for meat drops, though.

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Post by GoldS » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:58 am

Incoming data dump!



MUTANT STUFF
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RONALD: 1 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 0 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 0 LIGHT

Gila Monster
----
Weight: 30
Damage: 17-34
Attack freq: 102/200
HP restore: 9-19
MP restore: 9-19

Rattlesnake
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 36
Stat range: 8-10

RONALD: 2 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 1 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 1 LIGHT

Gila Monster
----
Weight: 30
Damage: 31-62
Attack freq: 93/200
HP restore: 17-35
MP restore: 17-35

Whelp weight: 30

Rattlesnake
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 36
Damage: 19-38
Attack freq: 52/200
Stat range: 11-12

Volleyball weight: 36

Cactus
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Attack freq: 33/200
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 76, 79, 82, 84, 87, 90, 92, 95, 98, 100, 103
Meat drop bonus: +165%
Without base: +135%

Monster: Fluffy Bunny
Weight: 30
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 18, 21, 23
Meat drop bonus:
Without base:

Weight: 40
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 20, 23, 26

Leprechaun weight: 30

Fire Ant
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Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Attack freq: 36/200

Base item drop bonus: +25% (Big veiny brain, Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler)
Item failed to drop: Yes (Took 11 adventures)

Base item drop bonus: +35% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler)
Item failed to drop: No (200 adventures)

Item drop bonus: 65% < X < 75%
Fairy weight: 29 < X < 34

RONALD: 3 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 1 LIGHT
MINIMOON: NOT VISIBLE

Gila Monster
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Weight: 30
Damage: 26-52
Attack freq: 105/200
HP restore: 14-29
MP restore: 14-29

Whelp weight: 24

Rattlesnake
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Attack freq: 52/200
Stat range: 9-11

Volleyball weight: 16 < X < 25

Weight: 40
Stat range: 10-12

Volleyball weight: 25 < X < 36

Cactus
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Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Attack freq: 39/200
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 68, 71, 73, 75, 78, 80, 83, 85, 88, 90, 93, 95, 97
Meat drop bonus: +144.9%
Without base: +114.9%

Leprechaun weight: 24 < X < 25

Fire Ant
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Attack freq: [NO DATA]

Base item drop bonus: +35% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler)
Item failed to drop: Yes (Took 6 adventures)

Base item drop bonus: +40% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler,
Copper Alpha of Sincerity)
Item failed to drop: Yes (Took 103 adventures)

Base item drop bonus: +45% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler,
Baron von Ratsworth's monocle)
Item failed to drop: No (200 adventures)

Item drop bonus: 55% < X < 60%
Fairy weight: 22 < X < 26

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Post by stupac2 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:19 pm

I've organized the data so far available into a google spreadsheet for easy viewing, I had some trouble digging it out of there when I wanted to poke through.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= ... AtTJSXYKHw

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Post by GoldS » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:47 am

Oh, it's more data:

RONALD: 4 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 2 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 1 LIGHT

Gila Monster
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Weight: 30
Damage: 31-62
Attack freq: 104/200
HP restore: 17-35
MP restore: 17-35

Whelp weight: 30

Rattlesnake
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 36
Damage: 19-38
Attack freq: 41/200
Stat range: 11-12

Volleyball weight: 36

Cactus
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Attack freq: 40/200
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 74, 76, 79, 82, 84, 87, 90, 92, 95, 98, 100, 103, 106
Meat drop bonus: +165.2%
Without base: +135.2%

Leprechaun weight: 30

Fire Ant
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Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Attack freq: 54/300

Base item drop bonus: +30% (Big veiny brain, Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz,
Natural Born Scrabbler, Copper Alpha of Sincerity)
Item failed to drop: Yes (Took 44 adventures)

Base item drop bonus: +32% (Big veiny brain, Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz,
Natural Born Scrabbler, Nickel Gamma of Frugality)
Item failed to drop: No (300 adventures)

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Post by GoldS » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:47 pm

April 11th data

RONALD: 3 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 2 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 0 LIGHT

Gila Monster
----
Weight: 30
Damage: 26-52
HP restore: 14-29
MP restore: 14-29

Cactus
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 40
Damage: 21-42
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 76, 79, 81, 84, 87, 89, 92, 95, 98, 100, 103, 106, 109
Meat drop bonus: 172.6%
Without base: 142.6%

Fire Ant
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32

Base item drop bonus: +41% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler,
Iron Beta of Industry)
Item failed to drop: Yes (Took 243 adventures)

Item drop bonus: 55% < X < 59%

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Post by GoldS » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:26 am

Did somebody say McData?

RONALD: 2 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 3 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 0 LIGHT

Gila Monster
----
Weight: 30
Damage: 31-62
HP restore: 17-35
MP restore: 17-35

Whelp weight: 30

Cactus
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 40
Damage: 21-42
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 83, 86, 89, 92, 95, 98, 101, 104, 107, 110, 113, 116, 119
Meat drop bonus: +197.8%
Without base: +167.8%

Leprechaun weight: 40

Fire Ant
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32

Base item drop bonus: +32% (Big veiny brain, Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz,
Natural Born Scrabbler, Nickel Gamma of Frugality)
Item failed to drop: Yes (Took 65 adventures)

Base item drop bonus: +33% (Big veiny brain, Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz,
Natural Born Scrabbler, Zinc Delta of Tranquility)
Item failed to drop: No (200 adventures)

Item drop bonus: 67% < X < 68%

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Post by GoldS » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:40 am

It's all about the data.


RONALD: 1 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 3 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 0 LIGHT

Gila Monster
----
Weight: 30
Damage: 31-62
HP restore: 17-35
MP restore: 17-35

Cactus
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 35
Damage: 18-37
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 78, 81, 84, 87, 90, 92, 95, 98, 101, 104, 107, 109, 112
Meat drop bonus: +181.7%
Without base: +151.7%

Leprechaun weight: 35

Fire Ant
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32

Base item drop bonus: +33% (Big veiny brain, Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz,
Natural Born Scrabbler, Zinc Delta of Tranquility)
Item failed to drop: No (300 adventures)

Item drop bonus: 67% < X < 68%

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Post by GoldS » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:31 am

I'm detecting large amounts of data in this sector.

RONALD: 0 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 4 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 1 LIGHT

Gila Monster
----
Weight: 30
Damage: 40-80
HP restore: 22-45
MP restore: 22-45

Rattlesnake
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Stat range: 12-14

Stat gain: 7 < X < 8

Cactus
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 85, 88, 91, 94, 97, 100, 103, 107, 110, 113, 116, 119, 122
Meat drop bonus: +205.76%
Without base: +175.76%

Fire Ant
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Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32

Base item drop bonus: +10% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler,
Aerated diving helmet, Phat Loot Lyric, Copper Alpha of Sincerity)
Item failed to drop: Yes (Took 70 adventures)

Base item drop bonus: +13% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler,
Aerated diving helmet, Phat Loot Lyric, Zinc Delta of Tranquility)
Item failed to drop: No (450 adventures)

Item drop bonus: 87% < X < 90%

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Post by Fred Nefler » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:17 pm

GoldS wrote: RONALD: 0 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 4 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 1 LIGHT
Looks like everything had a 1.3 multiplier today. At least that's significantly better than the super versions.

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Post by Eleron » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:39 pm

Fred Nefler wrote:Looks like everything had a 1.3 multiplier today. At least that's significantly better than the super versions.
Yes, everything is as expected. The cactus had a ~175.8125% bonus, in this case roughly equivalent to a 1.418x weight multiplier.

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Post by rottingflesh » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:08 pm

The fairy seems to have a weight multiplier between 1.4 and 1.4667, not 1.3.

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Post by lostcalpolydude » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:51 pm

rottingflesh wrote:The fairy seems to have a weight multiplier between 1.4 and 1.4667, not 1.3.
The multipliers are applied to effectiveness, not to weight, from what I can tell.
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Post by rottingflesh » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:13 pm

Foiled again!

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Post by GoldS » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:22 am

And the data is...

RONALD: 1 LIGHT
GRIMACE: 4 LIGHT
MINIMOON: 1 LIGHT

Gila Monster
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Weight: 30
Damage: 40-80
HP restore: 22-45
MP restore: 22-45

Rattlesnake
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 36
Damage: 19-38
Stat range: 12-14

Stat gain: 7 < X < 8

Cactus
----
Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 40
Damage: 21-42
Base meat drop bonus: +30%
Meat drops: 97, 100, 104, 107, 111, 114, 118, 121, 125, 128, 132, 135, 139
Meat drop bonus: +248.14%
Without base: +218.14%

Fire Ant
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Monster: Beanbats.
Weight: 30
Damage: 16-32

Base item drop bonus: +13% (Powers of Observatiogn, Mad Looting Skillz, Natural Born Scrabbler,
Aerated diving helmet, Phat Loot Lyric, Zinc Delta of Tranquility)
Item failed to drop: No (250 adventures)

Item drop bonus: 87% < X < 90%

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Post by Eleron » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:53 am

lostcalpolydude wrote:
rottingflesh wrote:The fairy seems to have a weight multiplier between 1.4 and 1.4667, not 1.3.
The multipliers are applied to effectiveness, not to weight, from what I can tell.
Yes, the OP contains just about everything you need to know :)

If not, tell me, especially if it's just too boring or unreadable!

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Post by rottingflesh » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:42 am

/me hits himself for not noticing the first post was edited!

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