Alcove- Init fams Vs Hipster

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Draco Cracona
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Alcove- Init fams Vs Hipster

Post by Draco Cracona » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:42 pm

Assume:

springy, cletus, skis, lapdog for +115% init, or a zombie chance per try of .265 pre-fam/reroll.

symp, emp, leash, pet-buffing for 21lb boid, or +42% init, or +4.2% modern.

-20% combat, 85% base combat rate.

M = modern chance ignoring rerolling combat/noncombat etc..
C = Combat rate.
(1-M)*C = chance of Modern not happening and then a noncombat
(1-((1-M)*C))*C = chance of modern not happening and then a noncombat in the case that we've rerolled once already.

I simply added on extra terms for the hipster rerolls on the end.

ModernRate = M + (1-M)*C*M + (1-((1-M)*C))*C*M+ ...

For Hipsters:

H = HipsterRate

Modernrate = M + (1-M)*C*M + (1-((1-M)*C))*C*M + (1-M)*H*M + (1-((1-M)*H))*H*M+ ...

base case: ModernRate = .265+(1-.265)*(.35)*.265+(1-(1-.265)*(.35)*.265)*.35*.265 = 0.420 modern/adv.
Boid: Modernrate = .307+(1-.307)*(.35)*.307+(1-(1-.307)*(.35)*.307)*.35*.307 = 0.481 modern/adv
Hipster: .265+(1-.265)*(.35)*.265+(1-(1-.265)*(.35)*.265)*.35*.265+(1-.265)*(.5)*.265+(1-(1-.265)*(.5)*.265)*.5*.265 = 0.636 Modern/adv
Hipster at 10%: .265+(1-.265)*(.35)*.265+(1-(1-.265)*(.35)*.265)*.35*.265+(1-.265)*(.1)*.265+(1-(1-.265)*(.1)*.265)*.1*.265 = 0.465 modern/adv, a bit worse than Boid.
Hipster at 20%: .265+(1-.265)*(.35)*.265+(1-(1-.265)*(.35)*.265)*.35*.265+(1-.265)*(.2)*.265+(1-(1-.265)*(.2)*.265)*.2*.265 = 0.509 Modern/adv, better than the Boid.

So, if you have nowhere else for hipster use, it is better than the Boid until 4 hipsters are gone. Unless I've buggered this up, which is possible. Numbers will change depending on available +/- combat and +init.

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Re: Alcove- Init fams Vs Hipster

Post by Draco Cracona » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:50 pm

Including a sugar shield gets you up to .327+(1-.327)*(.35)*.327+(1-(1-.327)*(.35)*.327)*.35*.327 = 0.510, about the same as hipster at 20%.

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