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Re: Beers

Postby stupac2 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:16 pm

You acquire an item: Westvleteren 8 (2)
You acquire an item: Westvleteren 10 (2)
You acquire an item: Westvleteren 12 (2)

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stupac2 wrote:You acquire an item: Westvleteren 8 (2)
You acquire an item: Westvleteren 10 (2)
You acquire an item: Westvleteren 12 (2)


Hahahaha! Awesome stu.... let me know how you like the 12 =)

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Postby stupac2 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:54 pm

Might not actually drink it until my birthday.

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Postby williabr » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:55 pm

Thats pretty fantastic.

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Re: Beers

Postby Manendra » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:43 pm

Hopslam is pretty fantastic. I didn't see any at the liquor store today, unsurprisingly. Maybe next fall/winter I can send some out to those of you sad fuckers who don't live in the upper Midwest. Hell, by that time, Fulton will hopefully be bottling their beers and I can evangelize the tastiness that is Sweet Child of Vine IPA.

In the meantime, there's still some Abrasive on the shelves here in MN. Cheers!
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Re: Beers

Postby thacon » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:31 am

Woo, I've located some Matilda at a beer shop in Brooklyn. Looks like I'm going to have a field trip this weekend.

ETA: And Stu, I'm super jealous. Where/how did you get those? I've never seen Westvleterens for sale. Belgianshop.com sells that six-pack for $195! (It's a crazy process to buy it directly from the abby)

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thacon wrote:Great success


Time to put together Alliance of 12 to break into thacon's apartment and get that beer!

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thacon wrote:Great success


Where's the Blue Moon?

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Re: Beers

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I know I am. I swear I'll make the pilgrimage to the monastery itself one day.

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Postby stupac2 » Sun May 01, 2011 8:52 pm

Apparently you can only go in if you're a brewer. I was poking around their website and they said that. Although I think you can go to their cheese room with an appointment (don't remember if they have beer there).

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Re: Beers

Postby williabr » Sun May 01, 2011 9:30 pm

Now I feel like I need to take a picture of some of the great beers I have laying around and post it

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Postby slaphappy snark » Sun May 01, 2011 9:31 pm

williabr wrote:Now I feel like I need to take a picture of some of the great beers I have laying around and post it

Be careful, your cellar sounds like beer porn.

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Re: Beers

Postby williabr » Sun May 01, 2011 9:49 pm

slaphappy snark wrote:Be careful, your cellar sounds like beer porn.


Then I'll just keep it clean with a little family portrait ;)

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Re: Beers

Postby stupac2 » Sun May 01, 2011 10:01 pm

We're invited over when you crack those open, right?

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Postby williabr » Tue May 03, 2011 3:39 pm

If for some reason I decide to open them all at once and do a big tasting, then yes.

Most likely I'll pull them out one at a time at random

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Postby thacon » Tue May 03, 2011 4:02 pm

I just discovered beermenus.com. It's amazing!

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Postby thacon » Wed May 04, 2011 6:55 pm

stupac2 wrote:You acquire an item: Westvleteren 8 (2)
You acquire an item: Westvleteren 10 (2)
You acquire an item: Westvleteren 12 (2)


When are you going to try these? The 12 is apparently the best beer in the world

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Re: Beers

Postby preniqueezer » Wed May 04, 2011 10:11 pm

17 out of the top 20 beers are imperial stouts on that list. I suspect that there's a severe lack of impartiality on those judges.

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Postby stupac2 » Wed May 04, 2011 10:28 pm

PIE, basically the whole list is quads, imperial stouts, and imperial IPAs. There are a few random styles on there, but by and large, that's it.

I think it's because those styles are the most intense and generally the rarest while still being broadly enjoyable (the last clause cuts out random shit like lambics that many people won't like any variety of).

Anyway, no I have not. I'm probably going to this weekend, because I should be out on my birthday. It's been hard because I want to wait for my birthday, but whenever my will breaks on that one I also want snark to be here. And when she's here I typically drink stouts. Pretend that made sense.

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Re: Beers

Postby Eigenbasis » Wed May 04, 2011 11:59 pm

9/20 are imperial stouts on Beeradvocate: http://beeradvocate.com/lists/popular

On a side note when I crack open my Supplication I'll have broken in to the top 20 on that list. Right now my highest is Sculpin IPA at #24.
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Postby stupac2 » Thu May 05, 2011 12:42 am

Eigenbasis wrote:9/20 are imperial stouts on Beeradvocate: http://beeradvocate.com/lists/popular

On a side note when I crack open my Supplication I'll have broken in to the top 20 on that list. Right now my highest is Sculpin IPA at #24.


Why not crack open a Pliny and get to #3?

Also, kind of weird that I had #1 and #3 in my fridge tonight...

ETA: Wow and had #8 this weekend. Didn't realize KBS was that high. They're canning Heady Topper now, you might be able to get some!

Haha, #14 and #19 are in my fridge too.

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Re: Beers

Postby thacon » Thu May 05, 2011 5:14 am

I must steal Stupac's fridge!

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Re: Beers

Postby slaphappy snark » Thu May 05, 2011 9:06 am

#11 (or #18, depending on list) is sitting in mine, but it's moving to stu's tomorrow, so waiting on thievery might improve your haul. ;)

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Postby Omri » Thu May 05, 2011 11:44 pm

Where did you get KBS, Stu?

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Postby stupac2 » Fri May 06, 2011 12:00 am

Williabr took a work trip to Ohio and apparently a friend gave him a 4-pack (or the opportunity to buy a 4-pack, or something). He very generously gave me one. In fact, we met at Healthy Spirits, and when I told the guy there that's what was happening he commented on the generosity.

Anyway, it was by far the best stout I had, can't wait to get some more next year.

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Postby Omri » Fri May 06, 2011 1:15 am

I definitely plan on getting some next year. I learned that there was a bar around here that had a small stash of it at an event that was happening a few weeks ago, but I wasn't able to make it.

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stupac2 wrote:Williabr took a work trip to Ohio and apparently a friend gave him a 4-pack (or the opportunity to buy a 4-pack, or something). He very generously gave me one. In fact, we met at Healthy Spirits, and when I told the guy there that's what was happening he commented on the generosity.

Anyway, it was by far the best stout I had, can't wait to get some more next year.


Opportunity to buy, I don't have friends that are that generous. I've been friends for a pretty long time with the beer buyer at my favorite Cincinnati liquor store, so he has a (great) habit of tucking away one of anything good that comes out so I can load up whenever I visit and then talk about it using run-on sentences.

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Postby stupac2 » Tue May 10, 2011 9:26 pm

williabr wrote:Opportunity to buy, I don't have friends that are that generous. I've been friends for a pretty long time with the beer buyer at my favorite Cincinnati liquor store, so he has a (great) habit of tucking away one of anything good that comes out so I can load up whenever I visit and then talk about it using run-on sentences.


I want to get like a million next year.

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Re: Beers

Postby TrueEeviL » Tue May 10, 2011 9:51 pm

I had a Rochefort 8 a little while ago, and man, I just must hate Belgian strong dark ales. It was like unbearably sweet. I couldn't finish it.

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TrueEeviL wrote:I had a Rochefort 8 a little while ago, and man, I just must hate Belgian strong dark ales. It was like unbearably sweet. I couldn't finish it.

Have you tried the 10? I really enjoyed the 10. I also usually like Belgian Strong Darks, but not nearly as much as quads.

I've found that Belgian Pales and Quads are by far my favorite Belgian styles. Everything else (Strong Dark, Dubbel, Tripel, Saison, IPA) I could take or leave.

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TrueEeviL wrote:I had a Rochefort 8 a little while ago, and man, I just must hate Belgian strong dark ales. It was like unbearably sweet. I couldn't finish it.


I wasn't a big fan of the 8, either. A little too much raisin-prune flavor in the mix for my tastes. I don't usually mind sweet (particularly if it's light and sweet like a wheat or saison) but dark, thick, heavy, and sweet can be hard to stomach.

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Postby thacon » Wed May 11, 2011 8:57 am

I'm going to have to try my bottle of 8 tonight for science.

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Postby Manendra » Wed May 11, 2011 4:39 pm

While we're posting beer pictures.... nothing too crazy here, but several things that most of you probably can't get where you are: BEER.
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Postby thacon » Wed May 11, 2011 4:44 pm

I don't like that klean kanteen. Too hoppy <_<

And since we're posting pictures, I decided to one up Stu >_>

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thacon wrote:I don't like that klean kanteen. Too hoppy <_<

And since we're posting pictures, I decided to one up Stu >_>

You got all those back on the subway?

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Postby Manendra » Wed May 11, 2011 5:09 pm

Did I tell you guys about what I'm building in my apartment? I had a little extra room.
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Postby Eigenbasis » Wed May 11, 2011 6:57 pm

"Have you ever heard the expression, ‘When life gives you lemons, make lemonade, and then throw it in the face of the person who gave you the lemons until they give you the oranges you originally asked for?’"

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preniqueezer wrote:
TrueEeviL wrote:I had a Rochefort 8 a little while ago, and man, I just must hate Belgian strong dark ales. It was like unbearably sweet. I couldn't finish it.


I wasn't a big fan of the 8, either. A little too much raisin-prune flavor in the mix for my tastes. I don't usually mind sweet (particularly if it's light and sweet like a wheat or saison) but dark, thick, heavy, and sweet can be hard to stomach.


I'm just finishing mine now. It's weird because I don't think it's very sweet at all. My fiancee tried it and commented that she was surprised by how subtle the flavor was considering its thickness. I would agree. I was expecting super sweet fruity syrup after reading your comments. I really like it.

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Postby williabr » Wed May 11, 2011 8:52 pm

Manendra wrote:While we're posting beer pictures.... nothing too crazy here, but several things that most of you probably can't get where you are: BEER.


New Glarus is fantastic stuff. I visited a few friends in WI last year and had a couple and LOVED their beers. Also, Dark Horse has a great cream stout (Too, I think?), and I really want to try their blueberry stout.

So, yeah, great selection

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TrueEeviL wrote:I had a Rochefort 8 a little while ago, and man, I just must hate Belgian strong dark ales. It was like unbearably sweet. I couldn't finish it.


I wasn't a big fan of the 8, either. A little too much raisin-prune flavor in the mix for my tastes. I don't usually mind sweet (particularly if it's light and sweet like a wheat or saison) but dark, thick, heavy, and sweet can be hard to stomach.


I'm just finishing mine now. It's weird because I don't think it's very sweet at all. My fiancee tried it and commented that she was surprised by how subtle the flavor was considering its thickness. I would agree. I was expecting super sweet fruity syrup after reading your comments. I really like it.


Completely forgot that I had one in my fridge and get to weigh in on this. I'm with Thacon on this one. I really didn't think that the sweetness was overpowered on it. Still, not as good as the 10, but I really enjoyed it and the raisin/prune/fig flavor that it had going on

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Postby Manendra » Wed May 11, 2011 10:50 pm

Eigenbasis wrote:Beer porn I had lying around:

Beer shipment from Stu


That shipment looks familiar. Pliny, check. Firestone Merlin, check. Funky aged corked Russian River, check. (Mine was Temptation, I wanna say.) I can get Deschutes here. Don't recognize the other one. :P

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Manendra wrote:While we're posting beer pictures.... nothing too crazy here, but several things that most of you probably can't get where you are: BEER.


New Glarus is fantastic stuff. I visited a few friends in WI last year and had a couple and LOVED their beers. Also, Dark Horse has a great cream stout (Too, I think?), and I really want to try their blueberry stout.

So, yeah, great selection


Yeah, New Glarus is great. I am a particularly big fan of their Moon Man IPA (not pictured... because I drank it all). And the Raspberry Tart that is pictured is great, if you like that sort of thing. (I do. A lot.)

It's an unwritten rule in Minnesota that when you cross the border you pick up some New Glarus for yourself and your friends. One of the first times I met a group of my (then quite new) girlfriend's friends, I brought some New Glarus. Immediate in. Seriously, they were so excited.
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Postby Verdigris97 » Mon May 16, 2011 10:37 pm

Where can I eat dinner in DC tomorrow night that has good beer?

Preferably close to the Metro...

I'll check the clan map thread, or whatever it is, too. Thanks in advance!

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Postby thacon » Mon May 16, 2011 10:40 pm

I'm going to Brasserie Beck this week. They have a nice selection of Belgian beers.

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Postby JennyUnderpants » Mon May 16, 2011 10:46 pm

You guys!!! Why don't you give me some notice that you're in town?! I would take you out! There are some gastropubs in the area. I recently went to Rustico, which is apparently a sister pub to Churchkey and Birch and Barley. If you go to Rustico, you have to get the macaroni and cheese.
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JennyUnderpants wrote:You guys!!! Why don't you give me some notice that you're in town?! I would take you out! There are some gastropubs in the area. I recently went to Rustico, which is apparently a sister pub to Churchkey and Birch and Barley. If you go to Rustico, you have to get the macaroni and cheese.


I spend the week before any business trip in complete denial, and then end up hoping that the trip gets canceled... Planning for activities while I'm there is so far off my radar that I'm amazed I eat at all. (I used to just end up getting something from room service, if the hotel had it, but I now make myself go out and enjoy the town...)

Can you tell I hate business travel?

Thanks for the recommendations! I like mac & cheese... Mmmmmm.

ETA: Okay, that's a bit of a coincidence; I just checked the Rustico website and I will be working in a building on Wilson all day tomorrow! Fate might have made my choice for me. Thanks, Jenny!

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Postby JennyUnderpants » Mon May 16, 2011 11:05 pm

Gotcha :) Rustico is the most Metro accessible one, a block or two from Ballston, I think. They have like 30 beers on draught and a bajillion in bottles. The beer menu on the website is out of date so you'll have to spend some time perusing the binder first :)
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JennyUnderpants wrote:You guys!!! Why don't you give me some notice that you're in town?! I would take you out!

I'm in DC all the time, but it's almost always a fly in early, fly out late kind of thing.

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Augh. Rustico is a little steep and far away and full of beer for me to go on a school night. I hope you enjoy yourself though, Verdigris!
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Really you should go to Pete's New Haven Style Apizza off of the Columbia Heights exit, b/c it's NEW HAVEN STYLE APIZZA!

(They do have decent beer selection)

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Postby Verdigris97 » Wed May 18, 2011 11:48 am

I ended up going to Rustico's, and enjoyed the hell out of it.

(Got a beet salad and a really great burger, with fries that I couldn't stop eating, just for reference...)

1. 60 Minute IPA, Dogfish Head (bottle). IPA, of course. Mmmm. Tasty. Went really well with the salad.
2. Yeti, Great Divide (2oz sample from cask). Imperial Stout. Holy cow was that strong.
3. Love and Hoppiness, Rogue (draught). German Pilsner. Really good, but there was something (flavor? scent?) I couldn't place. (checking BA, it might be banana)
4. Utopias, Samuel Adams (one tiny sip). 27% (!) ABV. More like a port than a beer. This stuff is ridiculous. Seriously.

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Verdigris97 wrote:Utopias, Samuel Adams (one tiny sip). 27% (!) ABV. More like a port than a beer. This stuff is ridiculous. Seriously.

I was curious, so I checked beermenus. There's one place in New York selling that in 1oz bottles. The only only place that sells it has 24oz bottles for $200!

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thacon wrote:
Verdigris97 wrote:Utopias, Samuel Adams (one tiny sip). 27% (!) ABV. More like a port than a beer. This stuff is ridiculous. Seriously.

I was curious, so I checked beermenus. There's one place in New York selling that in 1oz bottles. The only only place that sells it has 24oz bottles for $200!


Thats a deal! There is a bar here selling it for $299. Though, I'm sure it should only be about $150 at a proper beer store. Still outrageous.

Also, I've always wanted to try this. Just the idea that some of the beer that is in that mix has been aging for 18 years blows my mind.

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Postby stupac2 » Wed May 18, 2011 12:57 pm

I really wonder why no one out here cares 60 Minute.

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You want to start arbitraging Sam Adams?

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Postby williabr » Wed May 18, 2011 4:33 pm

thacon wrote:You want to start arbitraging Sam Adams?


Seems like the only logical thing to do.

stupac2 wrote:I really wonder why no one out here cares 60 Minute.


Yeah, it really is weird that we get all of their weird seasonal stuff but are missing a couple of the year round beers.

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Postby Eigenbasis » Wed May 18, 2011 5:15 pm

stupac2 wrote:I really wonder why no one out here cares 60 Minute.


60 Minute is good, but I'm not paying $11/6 pack for it when I get get Southern Tier IPA, 2XIPA, or Flower Power for cheaper. Of course, DFH can get away with those prices since they're already producing at max capacity.
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stupac2 wrote:I really wonder why no one out here cares 60 Minute.


60 Minute is good, but I'm not paying $11/6 pack for it when I get get Southern Tier IPA, 2XIPA, or Flower Power for cheaper. Of course, DFH can get away with those prices since they're already producing at max capacity.


Having a TV Show helps your marketing a tad.

Also, I pay $8-11 for a 4-pack of Surly Furious or Bender pint cans or $16-18 for Surly Abrasive, so that price doesn't seem that terrible. Then again, they are also at capacity.
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Re: Beers

Postby NardoLoopa » Tue May 24, 2011 7:57 pm

Does anyone else feel that Sam Adams beer all have the same taste (as opposed to all taste the same - which they don't, obviously). Personally, I can't stand their entire line.
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Postby JennyUnderpants » Tue May 24, 2011 8:09 pm

I have actually never had any Sam Adams. Granted I'm a beer noob, but still!
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Postby stupac2 » Tue May 24, 2011 10:25 pm

NardoLoopa wrote:Does anyone else feel that Sam Adams beer all have the same taste (as opposed to all taste the same - which they don't, obviously). Personally, I can't stand their entire line.

I like Boston Lager. But other than that, haven't had anything I've really liked. I also haven't had one of those since really becoming a beer snob.

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Postby williabr » Thu May 26, 2011 4:21 pm

NardoLoopa wrote:Does anyone else feel that Sam Adams beer all have the same taste (as opposed to all taste the same - which they don't, obviously). Personally, I can't stand their entire line.


I think they use pretty much the same base hops in most of their beers. So there are other things going on in each of their beers, but they all have that similar backbone.

I'm purely basing this off of the fact that I hear/see "Noble Bavarian hops" in a lot of Sam ads, doesn't matter which beer they're advertising

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Postby Manendra » Thu May 26, 2011 5:48 pm

Anyone live in or around Boston? Might be your only chance to try some Surly.
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Postby thacon » Thu May 26, 2011 8:03 pm

My favorite beer shop is having a special all-Stone tap list this weekend. I'll probably pick up a growler or two, but I've only had the Arrogant Bastard and Double Bastard. Does anyone have any recommendations or personal favorites on this list? I'll probably do some tasting, but not enough to try them all.

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Postby JennyUnderpants » Thu May 26, 2011 8:16 pm

I liked the Smoked Porter :)
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Postby Eigenbasis » Thu May 26, 2011 8:30 pm

Hopefully they'll distribute to other states after they expand...
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Postby preniqueezer » Thu May 26, 2011 8:56 pm

williabr wrote:
I think they use pretty much the same base hops in most of their beers. So there are other things going on in each of their beers, but they all have that similar backbone.

I'm purely basing this off of the fact that I hear/see "Noble Bavarian hops" in a lot of Sam ads, doesn't matter which beer they're advertising


Yeah, I think the brewers have a bit of a reliance on the same blend of hops or yeast, or something. I don't really think they all taste the same, but there's definitely a family resemblance to a lot of them.

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Postby stupac2 » Thu May 26, 2011 10:30 pm

thacon wrote:My favorite beer shop is having a special all-Stone tap list this weekend. I'll probably pick up a growler or two, but I've only had the Arrogant Bastard and Double Bastard. Does anyone have any recommendations or personal favorites on this list? I'll probably do some tasting, but not enough to try them all.

Ruination. Ruination. Oh, and more ruination.

But, uhh, it's really, really hoppy. Hoppiest beer I've ever had (except maybe Mikkeller's 1000 IBU). I love it thought. When Becky and I went there last weekend I had a Ruination, sharp cheddar, and garlic soup that was out of this world. I love this beer, I'm drinking one right now.


Cali Belgique is HotStuff's favorite beer, but I'm left underwhelmed. I've yet to try a Belgian IPA that was as good as a decent IPA or a decent Belgian. It just doesn't seem to work.

Levitation is Jick's favorite, and it's a pretty good red. If you like reds you'll probably like it.

The standard IPA is good, but it's a standard IPA. You can get something just as good from most decent breweries. I've never had the dry-hopped version.

Sublimely Self Righteous is a black IPA, I gave it a 4/5 (the dry hopped version, haven't had normal). I honestly don't really remember much about it, but I haven't been blown away by a black IPA yet.

The smoked Porter is a smoked Porter. I don't really recall it being anything special.

The rest I haven't tried.



One of the funny things about Stone is that their beers are pretty pedestrian. You can get equivalent beers from a lot of different places. The exception is, in my mind, Ruination. Also, this could be the contempt of familiarity going, these are so easy to get here that I haven't ever had to try to get one. I'll definitely be going after their RIS, and the stupidly limited (<700 bottles) barrel-ages RIS, though.

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Re: Beers

Postby Eigenbasis » Fri May 27, 2011 9:17 am

I would want to try the dry hopped IPA and the dry hopped Self Righteous. Note that dry hopping doesn't make the beer more bitter, but it dramatically increases the hop aroma.

Ruination is too hoppy to the point that it isn't fun, IMO, but to each his own.
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